Kellyanne Conway, former White House adviser to then-President Donald Trump, told Fox News Radio she supports claims by Trump-era Mike Pompeo that former UN ambassador Nikki Haley was trying to replace Mike Pence on the re-election ticket.
On “The Brian Kilmeade Show,” host Conway asked about the alleged claim in Pompeo’s forthcoming book.
Kilmeade reported Haley “schemed” with the President’s son-in-law Jared Kushner to replace Pence ahead of the 2020 election.
“It’s true that there were people trying to get Mike Pence off the map starting around 2018,” Conway said, calling the move a “dumb errand” in part because Pence brought important political credentials among evangelicals and evangelical women to Trump ticket.
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“I just wish Ambassador Haley had been stronger and more public, more determined and more public by just saying, ‘Please don’t talk about it. We’re so busy here at the UN’ where she’s been an ambassador for less than two years — and I wish she’d just said that,” Conway said.
Conway said he told Trump replacing Pence was a terrible idea and called Kushner a “political novice” whose alleged reasoning revealed blatant naivety.
She polished Pence’s credentials as a decades-long former member of Congress on the all-important foreign affairs committee, his leadership experience in Indianapolis as governor, and his long-standing respect at the GOP base.
Conway suggested that part of the reason for deliberations against Pence was to have him replaced by a woman, saying Joe Biden did just that to less than desirable results.
“If you have a winning ticket, you stick with it. This whole idea of ’let’s just get a woman. Get a woman, get a woman.’ Do you know who did this? A Joe Biden did that,” she said, referring to Vice President Kamala Harris.
“He sounds like a frat boy at the end of a fraternity keg party: ‘I need a wife. I need a woman.'”
“So I’m glad Secretary Pompeo said that and he – listen, that’s a great American. He has an incredible, wonderful American history and I wouldn’t be surprised if he runs and reminds everyone that we had a Secretary of State where all these great things happened: Suleimani, Baghdadi, the Abraham Accords, the other staff to try,” she said.
Conway said Pompeo didn’t receive the awards he deserved for his work during the Trump years because the former Kansas congressman was too humble to solicit praise.
She contrasted Pompeo’s personality with that of Kushner, who she says gives open credit for things he’s worked on that have proven successful for the Trump administration.
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In an interview with Fox & Friends in November 2019, Trump denied such rumors about Pence’s replacement and called his running mate “our man 100%”.
At the time, he praised both Pence and Haley, thanking the latter for “the most beautiful endorsement you’ve ever heard.”
Trump had a falling out with Pence after the Capitol riot, during which people who stormed the building chanted “Hang Mike Pence” because he continued his role as confirming the presidential election.
Trump previously accused his vice president of failing to use a power critic feud Pence was having at the time to oppose certification, with the former president and others citing a relevant law from the 1880s and the situation surrounding the duel with electoral lists from Hawaii from the 1960 presidential campaign.
In a recent interview with Special Report, Pence said Americans will likely have “better choices” than Trump in 2024, while adding that the real estate mogul was the only candidate who could have defeated Hillary Clinton in 2016 .
“[D]Different times require different leadership,” he said.
Fox News’ Patrick Hauf contributed to this report.